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Giffgaff Review

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Last update: October 1st, 2012


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giffgaff - the mobile network run by you

Ditch your phone contract! ‘Coz with Giffgaff you can get unlimited data, 250 minutes any time/network and unlimited SMS for £10/month. And they’ll even throw in a FREE FIVER when you activate your SIM.

I’ve been with Giffgaff for eight months now, and I’m impressed. They operate on the O2 network, so they benefit from their infrastructure and signal quality, which seems to be pretty decent. At least it’s been rare that I’ve not had a 3G signal down here on the south coast, even in fairly rural areas. Anyway, this article is mainly to get you thinking about whether you need to be tied to that (expensive, long) mobile phone contract. In short, on giffgaff I’m currently spending £10/month in total including unlimited data, with no contract, and no hidden obligations. You order a SIM card (for free), it arrives, you top it up, and you forget about it. How do I get by on a tenner? Simples:

  • 250 minutes of call time, any UK network, any time of day.
  • Unlimited Texts
  • Unlimited Data usage

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Giffgaff Goody Bags

The giffgaff goodybag is essentially a pre-packaged mixture of data, minutes and SMS allowance that lasts for one month. The £10 goodybag gets you all the above, the £15 gets you even more, and so on, up to a maximum of 1500 inclusive minutes (which is £25/month). If you’re not in need of unlimited data, there’s also a £5 goodybag that gets you a bunch of free minutes and SMS.

When the goodybag expires, you still fall back to your regular “credit” balance, like a normal PAYG arrangement; that is – you don’t have to buy a goodybag. The regular PAYG tariff is still very competitive:

  • 10p/min calls to any UK network or landline, any time of day
  • 6p/per text
  • Free calls to other giffgaff users
  • 0800 numbers are actually free
  • *Giffgaff goody bags expire (after one month), but normal credit doesn’t

These charges are very reasonable indeed compared to the competition, but if you require unlimited data (i.e. you have an smartphone), in the long run you’re probably better off with a £10 goodybag. Basically my goodybag covers all my normal usage, and my balance is kind of a backup, for when my goodybag lapses, or if I want to do something not covered by a goodybag, like texting a foreign number. Also, bear in mind that you can set up auto-topups, so you can totally avoid any “running out of credit” situation. Plus giffgaff warn you by text before your goodybag expires.

Do you really need a contract?

This may be a newsflash for contract owners: PAYG tariffs have changed! giffgaff isn’t the only operator offering unlimited data on a PAYG tariff; and you’ve heard of Skype right? Well:

Smartphone + Wifi + Skype (or similar) = free calls

I’m not sure about the feasibility of VoIP on 3G, but presumably this will improve over time. Anyway, they have wifi in cafes now you know? And malls, and even train stations. What’s more, they have it in other countries too.

Few people seem to break down the real cost of their contract. Don’t pay £35/month just because you can afford to. Let’s face it, most people can afford to. But the conditions for contracts seem to have got substantially worse in the last couple of years (remember 12 month contracts?). Here’s a patronising formula for you:

24 months x £35/mnth = £840

Or, more likely if you’re currently looking at an iPhone 5, something like:

24 x £36/month + £199.99 for the handset MINUS unlimited data = £1063.99 + some data charges

Over One Thousand Quid for a phone? What does it do? Give you an Indian head massage before bed? Unless you need more than 250 mins of call-time, you could be spending just £240 over 2 years on giffgaff. And if you do need more than 250 mins, get a bigger goody bag: 400 mins for £15.  Oh yeah, but have you seen the price of iPhones? They cost hundreds anyway! Well that’s because apple are taking the p**s quite frankly. But it’s hardly your only option. I picked up a Google Nexus One on ebay for £200 (good as new), running Android 2.3 (Gingerbread).

Then there’s the lack of flexibility. 24 months? Some marriages don’t last that long! What if you take a job abroad for a few months, or go traveling? (you have seen the foreign call charges right?) You’re gonna want a local SIM, with data allowance, which (maybe surprisingly to some ripped-off Brits), pretty much any country will provide you with. I’ve been to Vietnam and paid less for data than I would here; just buy a local SIM (often free), plug it into your phone, and bask in the glory of not having a pointless UK contract.

All I’m saying is: think about the total cost of ownership of your contracted handset.

How do I get the free £5?

Giffgaff will boost your credit by £5 if you sign up via an affiliate link, such as (mine!):
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/jimlit
The free fiver will be added after you have activated the SIM and made your first top-up, which is done online and takes no time. I also get £5 credit, so everyone’s a winner :)

Will giffgaff work with my iPhone?

Yes. giffgaff will work with any iPhone version. Importantly, it will even work with an O2-locked iPhone (which many are), since giffgaff operate on O2. I’m not an iPhone user, but it sounds as though you simply need to send a text message to giffgaff, and they reply with the settings for your iPhone. More details here:
Does giffgaff SIM work with locked O2 iPhone?

Here’s an important point though – Giffgaff do not directly hand out Microsims.
This is no longer the case; you can now get the micro sim directly from giffgaff using the regular SIM order page. You actually end up with a normal sized SIM that has a “pop-out” section in the centre. More info here:

New Micro SIM

If your iPhone is locked to a network other than O2, then you will need to get it unlocked first. Sometimes the network will do this officially, for a charge. Apparently Orange do this:
Orange iPhone Unlock for £20
And less “official” methods do exist. giffgaff have recently added a very thorough guide to legitimately unlocking various handsets (including the iPhone), which can be found at www.giffgaff.com/unlock. It covers all the major UK networks.

Like Android phones, the iPhone is ideal for taking advantage of unlimited data with its feature-rich apps and background/sync tasks. The automated setup via SMS is also available for most Android phones.

How is giffgaff so cheap?

Obviously I’m no expert in the financial operations of a telecoms provider, but I think it has something to do with their business model. They have a community support system on their forum, encouraging others to contribute to support issues (such as setting up internet on your Android handset, or the iPhone thread linked to above), and rewarding contributors with “kudos” points, which can be cashed in at a later date. They also have a referral scheme, offering customers £5 of credit for every friend they sign up. Yes, I’ll get a fiver if you click the link below and sign up :) Why else do you think I’m spending 45 mins on a Tuesday night writing about this crap? Actually, I’ll tell you why: it’s because I get the feeling that giffgaff relies on this kind of promotion. So I’m spreading the word – I think it’s called viral marketing or something? Basically, I don’t want giffgaff to go bust because they’re saving me a sh*tload! Plus the more people there are on giffgaff, the more free calls I get!

An interesting blog article here talks about giffgaff’s “non-advertising” approach.

Any bad points?

One small gripe. A couple of times I’ve been blocked from certain websites because of “over 18 content”. It wasn’t a porn site, honest. Anyway, I shot them a message through the online login on their website and it seemed to clear the issue.
I can’t really speak for their customer support quality, because I’ve had no issues. I am a fan of community-based support; you’ll often get a faster and more intelligent response than from someone in a generic call centre who’s handling calls for hundreds of companies(!). But I guess if you’re the kind of person that likes to phone someone up and ask “how do I turn on my phone?”, giffgaff might not be for you. Although for all I know, their phone support is great.

**UPDATE** Yes it seems they don’t offer phone support (as I suspected), and I guess this a major factor in keeping costs down.

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Written by James Little

March 30th, 2011 at 4:58 am

Posted in giffgaff,Reviews

  • Thorsten Wetzig

    Sounds great. I would appreciate to have something like that here in Canada. Thanks James.
    Thorsten

  • Matt Redhill

    Thanks for the info. I signed up a couple of weeks ago and should get by on
    a tenner/month too. On my Orange contract I was paying £40/month for similar
    benefits : Had an issue where sms messages would report as unsuccessful, but it
    turned out that they were actually delivered, and the issue disappeared quickly
    anyway.

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    I recall a similar SMS issue a couple of months back, but it was sorted very quickly then too. I didn’t know at the time, but it’s worth checking the O2 network status page first: http://status.o2.co.uk/ in case the issue is their end.  

  • http://mobilenetworkcomparison.co.uk/ Mobile Network Comparison

    Great review – if you want another opinion, please check out our review too at http://mobilenetworkcomparison.co.uk/reviews/giffgaff/. We talk about the rates and the goodybags as well as the coverage offered by O2.

    Are you still enjoying being on GG?

  • Deirdrecosgrove

    Man, I just signed up and then read your blog..sorry, would have liked to have given you the fiver, really like what you’ve written. Excited about getting my giffgaff sim though. 

  • Pud54

    can I keep my existing mobile number?

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Yes you can, you just need the PAC code from your existing network provider. Once you have that, follow the guide here: http://support.giffgaff.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/96/~/i-want-to-keep-my-existing-number-when-joining-giffgaff...

  • Yash

    I am on T mobile and want to keep my number same for giff gaff also.How can i do that.

  • Steve

    hi james, sounds great. Thanks for your intro, think I’ll join up – I really cant imagine signing a 2 year contract for anything and it seems pretty simple.

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    You need to phone T-Mobile to request your PAC code; you should be able to call 150 from your mobile and select “Thinking of Leaving”. They’ll try and convince you to stay no doubt, but just insist on the PAC code and they must provide it within 2 days. Then you login to Giffgaff (after having ordered an activated your SIM), and then input your PAC code and the number will be transferred. More details on obtaining PAC code from T-Mobile:
    http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discussions/index?page=forums&topic=80103854aff9f80129f7ab81a8007e1c

    This process is the same when switching from/to any provider. 

  • grazegrabber

    I joined giffgaff on 28/07/11 and by 31/07/11 it had stopped working, i
    had no incoming calls or texts. I contacted giffgaff and it took them
    28hrs to reply, said they had done some button pushing, but it did not
    work.

    I had to order another sim saying i had lost mine, which i had not. My
    new sim arrived on the 05/08/11 but will not activate. It took a further
    28hrs for them to reply when i told tem it will not activate.

    It’s the 08/08/11 now and i have been advised it will take a few days
    untill they unblock my phone which i never asked them to do in the first
    place.

    I have been without a phone for over a week. My number was not ported
    it is the number that came with the sim so it was not that.

    if was not for the fact my wife’s sim is fine and we could have free
    calls to each other i would have gone to a bigger network days ago. Be
    aware.

  • Nicolas

    Is it possible to use these sims abroad. I am going to France shortly, and wonder , if so,  whether minuts talk time from the credit bought can be used, or if other charges apply. I am going to have to make phone calls to England to work.

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Yes you can make calls abroad (and sms, data etc.) but you are subject to roaming charges. See http://giffgaff.com/index/pricing (scroll right to the bottom).

  • The M

    The fiver is copyrighted and under English Law what you have done is tantamount to forgery, which comes with a prison sentence. Have a nice day.

  • Slim

    Are you sure its 250 cross network minutes with the £10 goody bag. From what i’ve read it looks like the 250mins is only to other giffgaff users. I could well be wrong though!

  • Intrus

    James, you should really put up your referral code!  Just from your website alone, you could likely get endless referral credit and even use their phone for free!  I’ll put your code, I just ordered a free SIM online after wasting literally hundreds of pounds on T-Mobile (cheap), Vodafone (cheapest), and O2 (ripoff) in just over 2 months trying to find a good data plan with reasonable other rates.  If what you say is correct and the data speed is the same as O2, I’ll be so happy.  

    Also, I love community run trouble solving.  We are much smarter combined than even Google.  When I need to figure out a solution for my android I just search forums.  Who wants to waste time and credit in que when you can get a direct and user approved response via a 5 second search?  Plus you can’t trust them for a lot of “opinion” questions, such as “which network has the fastest data” or “which package is the best” because they are motivated by profits.

    Keep up the great work

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Yep I’m positive as I often make calls to other networks, and also landlines are included (as long as they’re not 0845 etc). Giffgaff -> Giffgaff calls are completely free, i.e. don’t even need a Goody bag and do not deplete Goody Bag minutes.

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    My referral link is up there under the “How do I get the free £5?” heading. But yes, my referral code is ‘jimlit’ and the full link is:
    http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/jimlit

    Yes it’s very rare that I phone a call centre and it doesn’t end up being a complete waste of time. If you want good phone support you usually have to pay handsomely for it, so I’d pick community support any day.

  • James

    Yeah GiffGaff to GiffGaff are free aslong as you top up once every 3 months. We moved all our staff over to them, it is great, £10 per month per phone, cant complain. I also posted a review @ http://mightygadget.co.uk/reviews/giffgaff-review-mighty-gadget-ditches-contracts/3031

  • V6_BEC

    I joined giffgaff a couple of months ago and its great but above all its cheap, i’m saving around £20 pm plus i introduced a couple of friends and got rewarded with 2 fivers, who else does that??
    £10 a month buys you 250 anytime any network minutes plus unlimited texts and data, oh and don’t forget about the free giffgaff user to giffgaff user calls to.
    In my opinion giffgaff is the way forward wether your on a budget or not, why pay £600 extra to the major networks for a £200 phone.
    Give giffgaff a try and you’ll be suprised.

  • Kfjk

    i havnt got giff gaff yet but from your comments im defo gonna get ih :)

  • Gavin

    I completely agree with you, I signed up to a 2 year contract, and wish I had not.  As changed jobs  6 mouths latter and have a poor signal at work.  If I was on pay as you go or a 30 day sim contract could of just changed to the best network in the area.

  • Melvyn

    Nice little review here James – I unfortunately came across the GiffGaff website before applying & arriving here so no fiver for me :( But I do look forward to introducing others once I have my Sim and am up and running… The irony is that I am with O2 – contract up next month was going to stay with them on a Sim only contract but they have withdrawn the unlimited data (actually I have never used more than 200mb per month anyway! – But apps being apps prefer to pay a little more and not have to worry)… Can’t believe O2 said no deals for unlimited data anymore! In fact I was prepared to pay a little more but their £15 per month offering doesn’t touch the GiffGaff £10 goodybag with a barge pole! So here I am ready to pay less & switch to GG 30% less per month and indirectly on O2 with an unlimited data deal!!! Its a no brainer – long may it continue… I hope it is not a ponzi scheme and the business model is not totally reliant upon ever increasing numbers… But pay monthly – if it folded I would be disappointed but not likely to lose too much.

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Hari, I have not had any connectivity issues, but then I never did on an O2 handset either. I guess O2 just has a pretty reliable service where I live. Others have reported issues though, but as far as I know that is mainly with SMS failure.

    I guess the iPhone 4S might be quite restricted in supply for the first few months, in which case you might not save much (if any) money by buying on ebay. Although you might pick up an iPhone 4 for a good price.

  • Pat Manley

    Jim, sorry, but you have bust your limit for referrals this month. My vodafone contract has run out, I’m going to get an iPhone 4S and Giff Gaff looks the best possible deal as long as you are prepared to fork out £499 up front. Do you supply microsims yourself, as I have about two weeks to spare? As a matter of interest on today’s date Giff Gaff costs £739 for 24 months including the iPhone, the next best for unlimited data is 3 at £939 for 24 months including the phone. Staying with Vodafone would cost me £963 with only 500mb data per month. When does your next referral period start? A brilliant Blog.
    Pat Manley

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Hi Pat, thanks for letting me know I’ve hit my referral limit! I’ll try to get the limit increased.

    No worries anyway, as you will need a microsim with your iPhone 4S, which I don’t supply. See the link above to order one.

    Good to know Giffgaff are still cheapest when comapred to a 24 month iPhone 4S contract. I guess the only thing that would concern me with such a valuable device though – what to do for insurance? Although, insurance is usually an extra on a contract deal anyway.

  • Johnnyburke

    Great article. I am a longstanding O2 pay and go customer and have been happy with that but this Giffgaff £10 a month top up seems far better. I just orderd my sim before I read your article. Should I re-order via your link? Also does the 250 inclusive minutes cover calls to landlines or 0845 numbers?

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Feel free to order via my link, but it’s by no means mandatory – the info is free :) Only thing is, if you didn’t order your original via an affiliate link, you won’t get the £5 of free credit on activation.

    Call time allowance includes regular landline numbers, but not non-geographic numbers like 0845. Looks like they are 20p minute; if you go here: http://giffgaff.com/index/pricing and click on ‘Other UK numbers’ you will see the list of rates there.

  • Janjo100

    Do you use the site ‘ say no to 0870′ nos…go there and usually you will find an alternative no for all the 0845 0870 etc nos

  • east93

    Quote from giffgaff website:

    Mobile Internet:Mobile Internet is charged at 20p a day (up to 20MB). You will be charged at 20p/MB until you use 1MB/day. If you use between 1MB and 20MB you will only be charged 20p/day. If you go over 20MB you’ll be charged extra at 20p/MB.

    If you have unlimited mobile internet for the month on one of the goodybags, when does this ‘clause’ come into play?? is it only if you dont pay for the goody bag one month ?? Any information would be great :)
     
    Anyhow, fantastic artical and I think its tempted me to join them when my current contract runs out, which is pretty soon.

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Yes, it only kicks in when your goody bag runs out, and you are given a couple of warning messages before that happens. Also, you can queue up a goody bag online, so that there is no gap between them.

  • Karen

    Can I buy the goody bags with a money payment at my local newsagent?

  • Karen

    Hi Thorsten
    I went to Canada for a holiday last year and took my mobile. I thought I would be able to just buy a pay as you go sim but was surprised that there we so many charges involved. In Europe and elsewhere you can just buy a sim and pay as you go without any admin charges. As a Canadian I was surprised at the complete lack of competition.

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Hi Karen. That’s a good question, but unfortunately the answer is no. You can buy top-up vouchers in a newsagent, but not the goody bags.

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.selby Richard Selby

    As far as I’m aware you can top-up in store and use this credit to buy a goodybag.

  • Rowena Evans

    Hi, My iPhone contract is about to expire and my phone is in the Orange network. Does anyone know if  a GiffGaff sim would work in my phone?
    Thanks :)

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    It really depends on whether the handset is locked or not. Obviously that’s pretty straightforward to find out if you have access to a non-Orange SIM.

    In any case, you should be get Orange to unlock the handset remotely once your contract has ended, but other Orangers will know more about this than me…

  • Dave

    A word of caution: I just joined and it was a bit of a painful experience porting my number. Two full days without any service and just a dead tone when people tried to call me. Who know’s what I missed. I know a lot of others have experienced similar lately. (Don’t take my word – check their community forum.) Guess they are a bit inundated at the min. Everything ok now but it was a bit scary at the time. One person said they had been waiting 20 days!! (Obviously this would need confirming.) I wouldn’t say don’t join but be aware that if things go wrong, there is no one to call and you will have to wait up to 24h for a response from an agent. My advice: if you do join don’t arrange your port in date for a Mon or Tues as they seem to be catching up with a high volume of port requests from the weekend. Other than that I’m saving £120 per year so I’m ok as long as I don’t experience any more problems like that. Otherwise I’ll be gone.

  • Khairul Islam

    All 084/087 number have now been reduced to 12p/minute.

  • Karen Oneill72

    can my daughter use this with her new 02 blackberry

  • John Sadler

    Although I’ve had a GG sim for a while, I just got around to porting my number from O2. Phone went off line about 8:30am by 11:00am GG was working. I followed the instructions for an Android phone, did a manual setup and all appears to be working fine.

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    Although the phone will accept the SIM without unlocking, many of the Blackberry services (such as messaging and push email) do not work yet on Giffgaff. See http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Learn-giffgaff-Top-Tips/giffgaffer-s-guide-to-Blackberry/td-p/92334 for more details. Apparently support is due in Feb 2012.

  • Daniel David

    Sounds great – I’m on Vodafone PAYG, would I be able to keep my number or would I have to change it?

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    You should be able to port your number from Vodafone. You need to obtain a PAC code and then follow these instructions: http://support.giffgaff.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/96/~/i-want-to-keep-my-existing-number-when-joining-giffgaff...

    which is the same process for any network.

  • Mrsimonpritchard

    hi, would you be able to queue 12 goodybags as someone wants to buy me 12 months worth as a gift?

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    You can only queue one goodybag.

    Auto-renewing goodybags are a planned feature, but that would probably not be very useful for a gift scenario.

  • Welshwizard

    I have an Iphone 4S with a cutdown giffgaff sim.  Do you know if can slave this to an ipad and get unlimited data on the Ipad?

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    I believe this should be possible on iOS 4.3.2 or greater, but can not confirm as I don’t have an iPhone or iPad. The feature is called ‘Personal Hotspot’; more info here:
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4517

    I’d be interested in hearing with you can get it working!

  • http://www.jameslittle.me.uk James Little

    This is not possible because you can not tether on giffgaff, so you would need a separate SIM for your iPad. More info here:
    http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Help-Ask-the-community-got-stuck/Personal-hotspot-iPhone-4/td-p/2617695

    You could buy a ‘gigabag’ for your iPad rather than a regular goodybag, as it is for data only, so may work out cheaper:
    http://giffgaff.com/goodybags#data

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  • http://twitter.com/JonathanEllis_ Jonathan Ellis

    It won’t work without it being unlocked, and for that you need to call Orange CS and cough up £20. All very straight forward though. They send you an unlock code or, in my case, let Apple know your phone is unlocked and it is done their end.

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